My first SC experience, September, 2012...

The place where campers hang out after a long day in the sims.

Moderator: Vincent

Post Reply
User avatar
p51
HabForum Junkie
HabForum Junkie
Posts: 1058
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:36 am
Location: 2558 miles from Space Camp
Contact:

My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by p51 »

I'm still reeling over the experience of space camp.
I started off in Atlanta and drove to Chattanooga for other reasons before leaving for Huntsville. After looking at other museums in the area, I found myself at the Marshall Space Center visitor center gift shop an hour before it closed. I was amazing to see the 100% size mockup of a Saturn V rocket in the distance as I came over the rise on highway 525. I bought just a few items (the first of many) and decided to chill on that until camp started. I stayed in the Marriott next door as there's really nothing else around the area of Space Camp. Looking across the fence at The HAB, I could hardly wait until the next day. I broke out my tripod and got a night photo of the Saturn Vs at the facility.
Image
DAY ONE
The following morning, I checked out and met up with Steve, who I'd met only here on the Hab forum once I realized we were already signed up for the same rotation. We couldn't check in at first, so we walked around and I took plenty of photos. As it was by then considered off season (and a weekday morning), there were very few people there. In fact, Steve and I had the entire building with the real Saturn V rocket to ourselves for over 45 minutes! We both got great shots with nobody else to deal with.
We also looked around and marveled at the full-size shuttle mockup, "Pathfinder" which is hard to see from the parking lot but dominates the view from inside the fence.
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Soon, we asked again and we told to go check in for Space Camp. Once we did, we were greeted very warmly. They handed us our name badges we had to wear, a nice blue camp t-shirt (which we were strongly encouraged to change into right away), bed linens and a room assignment. Normally set aside for up to seven campers, we adults all shared the rooms with only one other person. Steve and I got the same room which worked out well. We went into a room and were lectured on what to expect, a general overall view of what we'd be doing and the terms we would need to know. We then got a tour of the facility and soon immediately jumped into training for the first of two primary missions, which would be single-orbit shuttle launches augmented by the International Space Station (ISS). I was in the Mission Control that mission and pretty clueless at first. It initially felt like the "throw you into the deep end and hope you swim" method, but soon we found out it's the only way to get you up to speed.
Image
Image
Image
Image
This was Mission Control, note that the orbiter is sitting on the runway with no landing gear extended!
Image
"Mission Control" represents near the end of Day One. I am far left, and Steve is the second to the right:
Image
Right outside that room, there was a display of costumes and propps from the recent TV movie, "A smile as big as the moon," which was now overshadowed by a major-budget film on Space Camp called, "Space Warriors," which I assume will be in theaters next year.
Image
We also had a "get to know you" session where we all explained how we got there. Our team trainer was Lydia, a 20-something gal from California who was going to be a teacher someday. She called us all, "her kids," even though many of us were old enough to be her parents (and two, her grandfather). Right away, it looked like everyone was looking to get along with everyone. It was a great group of people who got along right from the start. Lydia said she always told groups they were her favorite when asked.
There were a few people who had been given the experience by friends or family and more than a few birthdays during the timeframe. That would factor in later. We were given model rockets to assemble and paint for a later launch. I'd built oodles of rockets in high school, so I think I broke a speed record getting mine done. The only "WTF" moment came when we were told to go outside and paint them.... in the dark! That's right, not a single light could be found. I'd never painted anything like that before and oddly it didn't turn out too bad.
We turned in quite drained, especially since it was amazingly hot outside. Having been away from the south since 1998, I was no longer used to that climate and suffered accordingly. Thankfully, it was the hottest day we had.
DAY TWO
We woke very early to hit the ground running. We were scheduled for flight training, a class on space history, another practice mission (again, a one-orbit trip), the rocket launches and our primary mission, which would be over two hours. I was told I would be in the ISS running experiments the second ("Bravo") mission. That was fine, as I was told we each would have one mission in each of the environments so I knew I'd get to use the orbiter eventually.
Getting breakfast down quickly, we headed over to the Aviation Challenge section to do flight training in F-18 fighter simulators and a centrifuge. We all pulled about 3 G's in a real centrifuge and tired taking off and landing in F-18s as well as dog fighting each other. I think I scared a couple of people when I pulled out my real nomex gloves and then proceeded to shoot down at least three of my team mates.
Image
On the way back, we talked about the mission patch we were told to create by the end of the day. Someone suggested a birthday cake theme due to all the birthday people we had. Someone else suggested 12 candles to represent each of us. I then offered to draw the patch, suggesting mounting the birthday cake atop a external fuel tank and solid rocket boosters, replacing the orbiter while into space. Everyone seemed to like the idea. I quickly sketched out a crude version of the design, which was now firmly in my mind.
We ran the second ("Bravo") mission, which would call for another launch and return from one orbit. I sat it out running experiments in the ISS. It was fun and interesting, but sort of boring in comparison to mission control and certainly being on the orbiter.
After lunch, we went to the building that housed the multi-axis trainer (that thing that has the concentric spinning rings), we all lined up to get onto the simulator for 1/6 scale gravity like on the Moon. I'd always wanted to do this and quickly got the hang of it.
Image
Then, the main mission was going to be run. The "Charlie" mission was over 2 hours and involved a full mission. They announced the positions and I was given the job of being the pilot of the orbiter! This was EXACTLY what I'd hoped to do when I got there, a real dream come true.
There were a lot of checklists to run, so many switches to throw and computer codes to input. Just getting the Auxiliary Power Units (APUs) on and off seemed to take forever. My commander was Maria, one of three friends who came to Space Camp. She said she was shaky at flying and was no liar when we did two practice approaches. We went through trees onto the runway each time. I reminded her that although the orbiter was seriously damaged each time, knowing the size of the trees at Kennedy, they were certainly survivable landings.
I can't honestly say I recall much other than being glued to the checklist. There's a lot to do, but this was exactly where I wanted to be. Having seen other missions land without putting the gear down, I was sure that wouldn't happen to us. We went up, got into orbit, opened the payload bay doors and started an EVA with the mission specialists behind us on our deck. They actually put space suits on and really worked on a mockup satellite in the cargo bay. But wouldn't have traded that for the seat in the cockpit.
Soon, it was time to re-enter the atmosphere. Looking around for minute, it was amazing to see very well-simulated windows, even the view of the payload bay to the back! Things got interesting on the approach to Kennedy Space Center (the previous two missions were at the forgiving runway at the dry lake beds of Edwards AFB), we started drifting badly to one side, then the other. I tried to coach Maria and where to look and how to ease it in. I must admit I didn't think we were going to get it on the runway at one point but she really stuck with it. I really got the feeling like everything depended on us. I later realized it was a real nail-biter in mission control and down in the lower decks of the orbiter. I made sure to have the landing gear and drogue chute armed and ready. There would be no belly-landings on my watch, thank you very much! At one point it looked like we'd overshoot the runway and I talked Maria down to what i thought was touchdown about 1/3 down the runway. Then I realized we'd touched down and bounced back into the the air. I was saying, "Nose down," over and over again. We cut across the axis of the runway but did manage to get it line up down the strip. I think I heard people cheering downstaris but maybe that was my imagination. I immediatetly popped the chute and watched the runway on the screens for when we'd stopped rolling. I know it was the commander's call to make but it wasn't on the checklist and I doubted Maria would know to say the last words made from the orbiter Enterprise after end of mission:
"CAPCOM, Enterprise. Wheels stop."
Maria and I high-fived one another at the conclusion of the mission, knowing we'd averted disaster on the runway at Kennedy.
Image
Image
I can't recall ever feeling that happy in my life from doing a spcific thing. I'd wanted to do exactly this for 30 years. That moment made it worth a hundred times the money and effort to get there to say that I helped get a space shuttle through it's mission. By God, I was THERE.
After the mission, we were reminded that the mission patch for our team hadn't been completed yet. I told Lydia not to worry that I'd have it done in a few minutes. I know she didn't believe me at the time. I hammered this patch out in about 15 minutes or so, to the stunned silence of the rest of the team. Lydia said she'd never seen anything like that before.
Image
I was quite proud of the effort and people immediately wanted patches made form this once I admitted I knew someone who could make them from the design.
Getting close to the end of camp, many of us went to the hotel bar at the nearby Marriott where the usual alcohol-induced wackiness ensued. I didn't hit the bunk until well past midnight. Six AM came awfully early the next morning.
DAY THREE
The day started by doing a trivia game against the other team. Done Jeopardy-style, we had no idea what our score was until graduation.
Image
Cleaning up and packing our stuff up, a few people were allowed to try their hands at hitting the bin with the linens from the second floor of the HAB, something the kids aren't allowed to do.
Image
We then went to a IMAX movie and afterward, to graduation.
Graduation was fine yet very sad. We were really getting our stride by the time it was all over.
We won the trivia contest and my mission patch design beat the other team's design (I saw a lot of stunned looks on the faces of people on the other team when they saw what we'd put together) and will be on the space camp website eventually! It was really cool that as they called out our names, they used the positions we had on the third mission. I must admit I really liked the sound of, "Lee Bishop, pilot"!
Due to the heat, only three of us had flight suits and none of us wore them until graduation. I really wish it'd been cooler so we could have worn them a lot more...
Image
Image
Those who had to catch flights left. We all probably knew the same thing, that a unique group of people had experienced something that would never be repeated again.
Now that camp was over, several of us (including Lydia, so I assume we really were her favorite after all) took the new tour of Redstone Arsenal. We toured the ISS control room on the NASA tour of Redstone Arsenal, which was amazing. We saw that and many of the test equipment used to certify rockets since the 1950s.
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Soon after the final photo, we returned to the visitor center, made one more pass through the gift shop, said goodbyes to those still there, and Space Camp became a memory.
I'll never forget my time with Team Columbia, week 50, 2012 at Space Camp!
Image
Skidmark
Space Academy: 2012, 2013 and 2014
Advanced Space Academy: 2016 and 2018

Undefeated for winning mission patch designs!
Official Space Camp Ambassador
User avatar
Hotdog
Top Gun
Top Gun
Posts: 902
Joined: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:11 am
Location: Rocket City, USA

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by Hotdog »

Excellent post! Thanks for taking the time to share your experience in such wonderful detail.

The Commander and Pilot checklists can seem overwhelming! There are so many tasks to perform in such small windows of time. This is how so many of those Space Camp shuttles end up landing on their bellies without the gear down (I can tell you from experience)! In my case, it wasn't that I got so busy that I forgot to put the gear down...I just forgot that I gave my Pilot the orders to handle the gear deployment task since prior to the mission that crazy checklist had me convinced that I would be too busy with the landing to hit the switches! So, she put the gear down as instructed, then I hit the switch on my side and put the gear back up. What a mission! Loved every bit of it.

Did you have any crazy anomalies during your missions? Anyone get sick or go crazy and have to be duct-taped to the airlock?
4-time Space Camp/Academy alumni
1989, 1991*, 1992, 1994
*Right Stuff Award Winner
User avatar
p51
HabForum Junkie
HabForum Junkie
Posts: 1058
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:36 am
Location: 2558 miles from Space Camp
Contact:

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by p51 »

Hotdog wrote:Did you have any crazy anomalies during your missions? Anyone get sick or go crazy and have to be duct-taped to the airlock?
Our trainer (a really first-rate woman named Lydia who our team loved) said they often hit teams with stuff like that if they're being overconfident or not getting along. We had plenty of anomalies, but simple checklist stuff.
Funny, Steve and I both noticed that other than taping the sheets to the mattresses in the hab, duct tape was a waste of money and we never used it.
Skidmark
Space Academy: 2012, 2013 and 2014
Advanced Space Academy: 2016 and 2018

Undefeated for winning mission patch designs!
Official Space Camp Ambassador
User avatar
Hotdog
Top Gun
Top Gun
Posts: 902
Joined: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:11 am
Location: Rocket City, USA

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by Hotdog »

I was way overconfident my last time at Camp. I was Commander of the Enterprise, and had been Commander twice before, and so the counselors were really gunning for me. They gave me a heck of a test, a fire inside the shuttle while in orbit. I knew this anomaly was aimed directly at me since everyone else was either sick, performing EVA's or on the ISS. So nice to know that practice is still in place :)

If I remember correctly, personnel-related anomalies such as illness during a critical mission step were passed out by the sim director right before the mission began. They were just little slips of paper that told you what your illness MIGHT be. If the ghost came and tapped you on the shoulder, that's when your illness began. It was up to them. You might not even get the signal to become sick and everything goes on as it should. While in orbit, I had to duct tape my Pilot to the airlock and give him shots of valium because he went bezerk (some kind of vertigo or severe panic attack, I can't remember exactly). He was out-of-commission until it was time for re-entry.
4-time Space Camp/Academy alumni
1989, 1991*, 1992, 1994
*Right Stuff Award Winner
Lin
Camper
Camper
Posts: 49
Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:53 pm

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by Lin »

Excellent post and photos!!! I'm glad you had such an amazing time. And that patch? AWESOME.

Where was the Redstone Arsenal? Was that part of the Marshall Center tour?
User avatar
Vincent
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 1167
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2001 12:55 pm
Contact:

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by Vincent »

The Redstone Arsenal is the name of the Army base in Huntsville. Marshall Space Flight Center is situated on a section of the Arsenal.
User avatar
Steve
Pathfinder
Pathfinder
Posts: 214
Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:48 pm
Location: Murfreesboro Tennessee (83 miles from Space Camp)

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by Steve »

Such a great time at space camp. I am ready to head to Huntsville for Space Camp part two. Got to admit, a over whelming at first, but it was great. Mission Control as Flight Director, Pilot of the Shuttle & Space Station with EVA. It was Fun, Fun & more fun. Now I got a idea on what is going on in Space Camp. Our crew trainer was excellent, Lydia did great job. Space Camp is so fortunate is have a trainer like her. And thanks to Lee p51, for all his help at Space Camp.:lol:
Adult Space Academy 2012 Team Columbia
Adult Space Academy 2013 Team Discovery
Adult Space Academy 2014 Team Discovery
Adult Space Academy with Astronaut 2015 Team Discovery
Official Space Camp Ambassador
Volunteer at US Space & Rocket Center
User avatar
p51
HabForum Junkie
HabForum Junkie
Posts: 1058
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:36 am
Location: 2558 miles from Space Camp
Contact:

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by p51 »

Right back at ya, Steve! I thought it'd be good to make contact with someone who I'd be at camp with and that paid off in spades. I think some folks at camp thought we were longtime pals or something, I had to explain how we knew each other a few times at first.
Lin wrote:And that patch? AWESOME.
Thanks! I think I really blew everyone away when I did that. I know for sure our trainer didn't think I could pull it off in a few minutes, and nobody on my team really could have understood that I could do stuff like that. Afterward, several people regretted not videotaping me making it, as I think it took me maybe 15 minutes or so. I'd had the idea firmly etched in my mind, so getting to paper was easy for me.
The funny part is I have someone who makes patches who is going to digitize what I did and will make real patches (voting among the team members is ongoing as to if we'll put crew names around it or not) and even he was impressed, I got the impression he might make one for himself! The one thing I'd forgotten was to put a single star in the sky field for out trainer. She really made a big difference, and I know I experienced a 'perfect storm' people-wise, as we all hit the ground running and wanting to make it work. The other group I think didn't get along nearly as well as we did. I got the feeling that we were a group but they were a gaggle of individuals. I guess that's why the only award they got was for best shuttle mission and we got the rest (including the Right Stuff award winner).
Skidmark
Space Academy: 2012, 2013 and 2014
Advanced Space Academy: 2016 and 2018

Undefeated for winning mission patch designs!
Official Space Camp Ambassador
User avatar
Steve
Pathfinder
Pathfinder
Posts: 214
Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:48 pm
Location: Murfreesboro Tennessee (83 miles from Space Camp)

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by Steve »

p51 wrote:Right back at ya, Steve! I thought it'd be good to make contact with someone who I'd be at camp with and that paid off in spades. I think some folks at camp thought we were longtime pals or something, I had to explain how we knew each other a few times at first.
Lin wrote:And that patch? AWESOME.
Thanks! I think I really blew everyone away when I did that. I know for sure our trainer didn't think I could pull it off in a few minutes, and nobody on my team really could have understood that I could do stuff like that. Afterward, several people regretted not videotaping me making it, as I think it took me maybe 15 minutes or so. I'd had the idea firmly etched in my mind, so getting to paper was easy for me.
The funny part is I have someone who makes patches who is going to digitize what I did and will make real patches (voting among the team members is ongoing as to if we'll put crew names around it or not) and even he was impressed, I got the impression he might make one for himself! The one thing I'd forgotten was to put a single star in the sky field for out trainer. She really made a big difference, and I know I experienced a 'perfect storm' people-wise, as we all hit the ground running and wanting to make it work. The other group I think didn't get along nearly as well as we did. I got the feeling that we were a group but they were a gaggle of individuals. I guess that's why the only award they got was for best shuttle mission and we got the rest (including the Right Stuff award winner).
Yes you did a great job on the patch. I was looking on line at the patches this morning, The young people did great job. I am partial to ours, it was the best.
Yes it seems I have known you a while, it was great to meet you & others from HAB1. Hopefully we all will meet again around the Saturn Five!!
Adult Space Academy 2012 Team Columbia
Adult Space Academy 2013 Team Discovery
Adult Space Academy 2014 Team Discovery
Adult Space Academy with Astronaut 2015 Team Discovery
Official Space Camp Ambassador
Volunteer at US Space & Rocket Center
SpaceCanada
HabForum Junkie
HabForum Junkie
Posts: 2127
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 2:07 pm
Location: Canada

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by SpaceCanada »

Thank you for sharing your experience and photos. You had a great time and the rest of us can experience it with you as we read your post. And definitely a great mission patch - you'll have to post a photo of the stitched one when it arrives. (My adult team had our team mission patch made into (real) stitched patches as well.) :D Glad you had fun!
- Jennifer -
Youth ASA 6-Day 1998 1999
Adult ASA 8-Day 2004; Alumni 2007, CSC 2013, 2015, 2017
User avatar
p51
HabForum Junkie
HabForum Junkie
Posts: 1058
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:36 am
Location: 2558 miles from Space Camp
Contact:

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by p51 »

I just made a good digital version of the mission patch, thought you'd like to see it:
Image
The lone star stands for our trainer, who guided us the way, and who we all loved working with!
Skidmark
Space Academy: 2012, 2013 and 2014
Advanced Space Academy: 2016 and 2018

Undefeated for winning mission patch designs!
Official Space Camp Ambassador
User avatar
p51
HabForum Junkie
HabForum Junkie
Posts: 1058
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:36 am
Location: 2558 miles from Space Camp
Contact:

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by p51 »

I found someone who knew space patches really well and I worked with him to create my ultimate view of what the mission patch should look like. I think we did a great job which pays justice to the original sketch I made in Huntsville:
Image
We're going to be making actual patches of this very soon. I can't wait for the first one to show up here. It'll go on my camp flight suit for sure!
Skidmark
Space Academy: 2012, 2013 and 2014
Advanced Space Academy: 2016 and 2018

Undefeated for winning mission patch designs!
Official Space Camp Ambassador
User avatar
Hotdog
Top Gun
Top Gun
Posts: 902
Joined: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:11 am
Location: Rocket City, USA

Re: My first SC experience, September, 2012...

Post by Hotdog »

The patch turned out great!
4-time Space Camp/Academy alumni
1989, 1991*, 1992, 1994
*Right Stuff Award Winner
Post Reply