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so i was reminiscing the good ol' days of camp...and i wondered...

does anyone else remember when the pens said advanced space academy?
i lost my pen and i am sad.

hmmm, anything else i forgot thats different?

I remember that. They ran out of them though so I never got one .

yeaa. i still have my space academy one somewhere.i was really disapointed last year(ah its almost been a whole year) to get a plain blue pen.

I shall beat all of you (except for the old people on the forum...ahem...oldER people)....I remember when you got like a hat a shirt a pen that had writing on it and the mars bubble was still out on the TCF...

I miss the green pens. And the books used to actually have stuff in them.

well aren't we special, sara?

I have a black pen with Advanced Space Academy inscribed on it from July 1998. I have another one, a clear blue click pen from October 1999. I also have the first Advanced Space Academy handbook and the second generation one, which is considerably smaller. I was rather disappointed at how much they cut out of the new book(s) too. I cannot even conceive of the idea of a non-coiled handbook for ASA. I used that book for everything! (I still use it to look up things once in a while...)

Thats nothing i remember when every program got a hat and the ones for Space academy and Academy Level 2 were fairly nice looking black hats back then. You also got a tshirt and a pen with your program name on it and atleasr for Camp and academy it had your team name on the back of the shirt as well. And The books they gave you were much larger spiral bound books with tons of info and lots of large diagrams not the small books they gave us when i went in 98. And definately not the photocopied ones they gave in recent years. Also i remember the first copuple times i went they hyad sponsored weeks or something along those lines where some ofthe corporate sponsors of the camp gave out free stuff. I remember getting pens, and pictures from i believe it was Boeing the first year i was there. but i guess those days are long gone now.

I was fortunate enough to get the book that was similar to the one they used for the Level 2 programme the year before. We also got the t-shirt with "Advanced Academy" written across the back. Do they still hand these out with registration? I remember they only had size adult Large and X-Large because both of my shirts are nearly dresses on me because I normally wear adult X-Small!

We didn't get any corporate sponsors either time I was there, but we did have Fire Safety week or something and there were half a dozen firetrucks parked below Pathfinder. (Sadly forcing us indoors for our graduation ceremony.)

We also had a fire alarm go off that week in the Training Centre while the Payload Specialists were in the UAT - I felt sorry for them because they had to do some sort of emergency procedures to get them out of te UAT super fast. Although, we were all jealous that they got to go SCUBA diving TWICE in one week to make up for lost time!

sorry about that... getting off-topic! back to pens and memorabelia...

Well in 98 last time i went you still got the tshirts i assume you still do but don't know for sure. I also got one of the blue ASA pens that year along with the small book atleast small in comparrison to the other years i'd been. I do remember a fire alarm being puilled when i was there in 93 during our discovery mission. I was in MOCR fopr the mission so it wasnt a big deal but our 3 MS's were allo wearing space suits and had to go outside in them and even though it was april it was still warm enough to wear shorts so needless to say they were a bit hot.

Any time of year in Huntsville is suitable for wearing shorts Although people tend to look at you funny when everyone else is wearing sweaters and long pants and you're wearing shorts and a t-shirt... never-the-less, it was snowing at home before I left for camp, so I did have something to wear so that I fit in a bit better! (Being the space nut that I am, I wore my old-style Space Camp winter uniform on the plane there!)

For Christmas camp this year we got long sleeved Advanced Academy shirts. They look the same as the t-shirts but with long sleeves.

SpaceCanada wrote:We also got the t-shirt with "Advanced Academy" written across the back. Do they still hand these out with registration? I remember they only had size adult Large and X-Large because both of my shirts are nearly dresses on me because I normally wear adult X-Small!
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i had the same exact problem with the shirts. actually at advanced our counselor found a medium for me, but it was still gigantic. my one from academy was a large. why are they so big? do they have smaller ones earlyer in the year then run out?

Ok, the first and unfortunatly, only time I was able to attend was in 1990. At the time they made video tapes ( which I an now hiding from everyone because it is so incredibly embarrising ), the plastic sun-visors with bands that you could change for different colors. The company team names were still there. Also, I was there when the MAT was on the TCF, and Columbia was used for something other than SCIVIS

I have a video from my first camp experience, in FL. I do remember the MATs and Five Degrees of Freedom trainers being on the TCF from my first visit to the Sprocket Center. I also remember cheap camp hats and company names branded on kid's backs.

I honestly have to laugh at what you guys call the good ole times. You guys know a space camp i'll probably never know and i knew a space camp most of you never knew.

When i went to camp in 91. Everyone got 4 things. A tshirt, a considerably larger log book than what i even got in 98, a hat and a pen. The tshirt for camp was white with a large space camp logo on the front and team name or US Space and Rocket Center on the back depending on if your team was named for a company or planet. For camp the tshirt had red around the neck and ends of the sleaves. For Academies 1 and 2 blue in the same spots. Academy Level 2 also had that written under the space camp logo on the front of the shirt. The hats for camp were visors in varying colors again each team had a different color. Academy got a black hat with US Space Academy embroidered on the front. Academy Level 2 got the same hat except it had scrambled eggs on the brim. Back then all the simulators were on the TCF no seperate buildings, Columbia was still used for camp and Endeavour was new heck the real one hadnt even flown yet. Academy level 2 was an 8 day program the rest are their current lengths. And aviation challenge was only a couple of years old and not well established. Camp and Academy level 1 offered a team video which i still have. Their were also some aditional training sims like the SSMT, Flight pod( i think thats what it called) and another one thats a little harder to explain. Ed Buckbee still ran things and we even had an apollo astronaut speak at graduation. The name tags were cheap pin on ones.

1993 things had changed some the old 80s style shirts were gone. Replaced with ehite shirts that had the team name on the backl and a small camp or academy logo on the front. Academy 2 was written under the logos on thir shirts. The visors and black hats were replaced by a tan colored hat with a red brim for camp and blue for academy programs. The books were still nice and large. Everything was still on the training center floor and the space station was still called Freedon it was even written on one of the modules the one that was over by the elevator. Videos were still available i still have mine. Everyone on my team hated the new hats so most of us bought NASA ones and our counselors let us wear them instead. The name tags were switched to clip on ones like they use now. Ed Buckbee spoke at my graduation that year.

1996 things really seemed to start to change. Buckbee was gone. The books shrunk dont know what the camp and academy teams got sense i was at Ac. Some diffrences ive heard from the current AC is meals were eaten over in the ward room building next to the volley ball courts, they didnt so seal missions back then. Small groups traveled around in G.O.A.T.S. And the sims were old F-4 cockpit simulators. The programs were called Beginner (Mach 1) Basic (Mach 2) and Intermediate (Mach3) And all the Intermediate teams were named for F-14 squadrons.

In 98 ASA seems pretty much the same as it is today except for the lack of books, And the fact that all the sims were still on the training center floor. Also Columbia was still their and in use and Intrepid didnt yet exist. What was a dissapointment was that year they shortened the program to its current lengths and shortened the missions to 6 hours from the academy level 2 12 and 24 hour missions. But they also increased the price.

Just a few of the diffrences between the camp i knew and the one today.

sorry for my extended absence but things have been pretty hechtic in new york

no i havent been getting shot

or mugged

or run over

or any neat stuff like that


but as you may or may not know, i have been going to space camp for 7 years and i can remember and were talking back, back, WAY back when when the counselors used to give you overalls with the space camp logo on it and a cowboy hat to go with it


anybody else remember that??

GOOD!!

cuz neither do i


what i do remember are the pullover windbreakers they used to give out, those were pretty nice, but i was a little confused

AC ones said aviation challenge on them

Space Camp ones said U.S. Space and Rocket Center

what a conundrum (my word of the day)

Conundrum (n) A paradoxical, insoluble, or difficult problem; a dilemma


THats all for now

o and btw guys, 8 day xmas camp 04/05


bank on it

CHACHING

8years baby


who knows what could happen





hehe

peace

i won't comment on what might happen...

thanks for the vocab lesson, ian!