Columbia

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 4:16 pm

Ok here is something else i found on a website as part of their tribute to the shuttle crew.

Without manned spaceflight:

Gully Foyle is my name
America my nation.
Deep space is a cold cold place,
And death's my destination.

With manned spaceflight:

Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation.
Deep space is my dwelling place,
The stars my destination.

---paraphrase of Alfred Bester, from Tyger, Tyger, 1956

whitestar · Post by **whitestar** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:41 pm

Hey guys. I bet very few of yall remember me. But, I'm back, hopefully for a while. It's a shame something like this was what brought me back. I just heard that body parts have been found for all the astronauts.

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:48 pm

Well whitestar you beAT ME TO IT. i'M GLAD TO HEAR REMAINS OF ALL CREW MEMBERS HAVE BEEN FOUND ATLEAST THIS WAY THE FAMILIES WILL BEABLE TO HAVE SOME CLOSURE AND SOME REMAINS TO BE BURRIED.

LaRsOnAtRiXkIx · Post by **LaRsOnAtRiXkIx** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:57 pm

whitestar wrote: I just heard that body parts have been found for all the astronauts.

yeah its kind of disturbing i thought though, earlyer on cnn they were showing two me carrying a body bag which obviously had something in it to a hearse, and they were talking about finding various parts on the side of a road. i duno, if that was someone in my family i would have been upset to see/hear that on the news..but yeah at least they have something to bury..

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:58 pm

Here are two verses of the Song Eternal Father. Some of you may have heard it they dsang it in the movie titanic or they sang the sailors verse anyway below are the verses for pilots and astronauts.

Lord, guard and guide the men who fly
Through the great spaces in the sky.
Be with them always in the air,
In darkening storms or sunlight fair;
Oh, hear us when we lift our prayer,
For those in peril in the air!

Eternal Father, King of birth,
Who didst create the heaven and earth,
And bid the planets and the sun
Their own appointed orbits run;
O hear us when we seek thy grace
From those who soar through outer space.

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:01 pm

Well i agree that they shpouldnt have shown the body bag being carried to a hearse i'm pretty sure the families have been notified of the discovery of the emains before it was announced on tv. Atleast thats ussualy the way it works.

whitestar · Post by **whitestar** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:02 pm

"Eternal Father, strong to save,
Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
Who biddest the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep.
O hear us when we cry to Thee
For those in peril on the sea.
Bless those who serve beneath the deep,
Through lonely hour their vigil keep.
May peace their mission ever be.
Protect each one we ask of Thee.
Bless those at home who wait and pray.
For their return by night or day."

That is supposeto be a prayer used by NASA for the Shuttle Flights. Officially, it's the submariner's prayer, but, despite the deep-sea references, it could wok.

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:08 pm

Well that song goes back to the 1800's that was the first couple of verses you just posted the ones i posted were aditional verses added later for pilots and astronauts.

whitestar · Post by **whitestar** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:16 pm

LB206 wrote:Well that song goes back to the 1800's that was the first couple of verses you just posted the ones i posted were aditional verses added later for pilots and astronauts.

Thanks for clarifying that

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 8:00 pm

No problem. Glad i could be of service.

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 8:12 pm

Here is the Latest PAO release it tells the schedule for tommorows Briefings on the Columbia investigation.

Robert Mirelson
Headquarters, Washington February 2, 2003
(Phone: 202/3580-1600)

Eileen Hawley
Johnson Space Center, Houston
(Phone: 281/483-5111)

RELEASE: 03-040

SPACE SHUTTLE COLUMBIA ACCIDENT BRIEFINGS SCHEDULED

Two briefings are scheduled Monday in NASA's continuing
effort to keep the public up-to-date on the latest
developments involving the investigation into the tragic
accident that killed the seven-member crew of the Space
Shuttle Columbia.

The first briefing is scheduled at NASA Headquarters Monday
morning at 11:30 a.m. EST. A second briefing is tentatively
scheduled for 4:30 p.m. EST from the NASA Johnson Space
Center in Houston.

Both briefings will feature questions from reporters at
participating NASA centers and will be broadcast live on NASA
Television.

NASA TV is available on AMC-2, transponder 9C, C-Band,
located at 85 degrees West longitude. The frequency is 3880.0
MHz. Polarization is vertical and audio is monaural at 6.8
MHz.

Additional information is available on the Internet at:

http://www.nasa.gov

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov

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Post by **Vincent** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 8:14 pm

I tnever seemed right to me to get used to the concept of a "Challenger Accident." To have a "Columbia Accident" now as well is quite unsettling.

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 8:19 pm

I know what you mean Vincent it will take some getting use to. Hopefully this will be the last time we have to get use to it.

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 8:24 pm

Well seems no sooner than i post one PAO announcement than another one comes out. So here it is.

Glenn Mahone/Bob Jacobs
Headquarters, Washington February 2, 2003
(Phone: 202/358-1898/1600)

Eileen Hawley
Johnson Space Center, Houston
(Phone: 281/483-5111)

RELEASE: 03-37

NASA MEMORIAL SERVICE SCHEDULED AT JOHNSON SPACE CENTER

The President and Mrs. George W. Bush will join NASA Administrator Sean
O'Keefe Tuesday afternoon in paying tribute to the brave heroes of the Space
Shuttle Columbia crew during a special memorial service at the NASA Johnson
Space Center in Houston.

The ceremony to honor NASA astronauts Rick Husband, William McCool, Michael
Anderson, Kalpana Chawla, David Brown, Laurel Clark, and Israeli astronaut
Ilan Ramon is scheduled to begin at 12:45 p.m. EST in the Central Mall area
behind Building One. Gates are scheduled to open at 10 a.m.

This is a private ceremony for family members, friends, and invited guests,
along with NASA employees and contractors. The service will be carried live
on NASA Television and available on the Internet at www.nasa.gov.

Media access to the memorial service will be restricted with television and
still photography access provided on a pool basis.

NASA Television is available on AMC-2, transponder 9C, C-Band, located at 85
degrees West longitude. The frequency is 3880.0 MHz. Polarization is
vertical and audio is monaural at 6.8 MHz.

Additional information about the STS-107 crew and the Space Shuttle Columbia
is available on the Internet at http://spaceflight.nasa.gov.

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monkeynautt · Post by **monkeynautt** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 9:45 pm

I don't know if I can ever get used to it.

The media is becoming very annoying. During press briefings they keep wanting to know about the body parts. That is something that should not be asked. The families are going through a terrible time. They don't need to see the media asking about body parts. Also, on NBC they had a guy saying that they shouldn't have made the ISS because they are not using it to get good scientific discoveries. He thinks MIR discovered all the stuff the ISS is now experimenting with. It's so stupid. Anyone who knows about the space program knows that good research comes out of this. On this flight they were doing research with cancer. That hits close to me because my grandpa is dying of cancer. With research being done on cancer maybe they can find a cure and many people and families can be saved from having to go through what my family is. Many good things come out of the space program and no one should ever say that it is of no use!

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 10:03 pm

I'm sorry to hear about your grandpa monkeynautt. I know what you mean about it hitting close to home because i was diagnosed with cancer 4 years ago thankfully i'm now in remission. Their are so many things yet to be discovered scientificly in space the guy on tv was definately wrong. Also below is the latest PAO release i just got.

STS-107
Report #20
Sunday, February 2, 2003 - 8:30 p.m. CST
Mission Control Center, Houston, Texas

Aided by federal and local agencies, NASA stepped up its inquiry into the
loss of the Space Shuttle Columbia and its seven astronauts. Multiple
investigative teams continue to pore over engineering data in an effort to
uncover the cause of the breakup of the orbiter over Texas on Saturday 16
minutes from landing.

Space Shuttle Program Manager Ron Dittemore told an afternoon briefing that
a Mishap Response Team is gathering data from numerous engineering teams in
the early stages of the investigation and is receiving assistance from the
Federal Emergency Management Agency, the National Transportation Safety
Board, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and local law enforcement
agencies, among others.

Dittemore said that as Commander Rick Husband, Pilot William McCool, Mission
Specialists Dave Brown, Kalpana Chawla, Mike Anderson, Laurel Clark and
Israeli Payload Specialist Ilan Ramon are mourned, the recovery of debris
from Columbia and human remains is being coordinated at Barksdale Air Force
Base, La.

Dittemore thanked residents in the areas where debris fell after Columbia's
breakup for cooperating in the recovery effort but cautioned them not to
handle debris that could contain toxic substances.

Dittemore reconstructed the final minutes of Columbia's flight before
communications was lost. He reiterated the failure of four temperature
sensors associated with the shuttle's left hand elevons at 7:53 a.m. CST
Saturday amidst a 20-30 degree rise in left hand bondline and strut
temperatures over a five-minute period near the left wheel well of the
orbiter. Columbia was flying over California at the time at an altitude of
about 220,000 feet traveling 21 times the speed of sound.

One minute later, over the region of eastern California and western Nevada,
Columbia's mid-fuselage bondline temperatures above the left wing
experienced an unusual temperature increase. It rose 60 degrees over a
five-minute period. No such temperature increase was noted on the right side
of Columbia or in the Shuttle's cargo bay. Columbia was about 212,000 feet
above the Earth, flying at Mach 20.

At 7:58 a.m. over New Mexico, telemetry showed a larger than normal drag on
the left side of the shuttle, and an indication of an increase in pressure
in the left main landing gear tires. Dittemore said the data suggests the
tires remained intact. Columbia's altitude was 209,000 feet.

At 7:59 a.m. over west Texas, the data showed Columbia continuing to react
to an increased drag on its left side, trying to correct the movement by
rolling back to the right. Dittemore said the response of the orbiter was
well within its capability to handle such maneuvers.

At that time, seconds before 8 a.m. CST, all communications was lost with
Columbia as it flew at an altitude of 207,000 feet, 18 times the speed of
sound.

Dittemore indicated that ground computers may contain an additional 32
seconds of data which could provide additional information in the analysis
of Columbia's breakup.

He added that the loss of some foam insulation from Columbia's external fuel
tank, which struck the shuttle's left wing about 80 seconds after launch was
"inconsequential" based on video imagery review conducted by engineering
specialists. However, he said nothing has been ruled out as a possible cause
for the accident.

Robert Cabana, the Director of Flight Crew Operations at the Johnson Space
Center, relayed thanks from the families of the astronauts for the
outpouring of support received from around the nation and the world.

Cabana said that the Expedition 6 crewmembers aboard the International Space
Station are "grieving" for the loss of Columbia's crew, but are in good
spirits as they continue human spaceflight and scientific research aboard
the orbital outpost. Cabana said Commander Ken Bowersox, Flight Engineer
Nikolai Budarin and NASA ISS Science Officer Don Pettit are preparing for
Tuesday's arrival of a Russian Progress cargo ship. Progress 10 was launched
this morning from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan.

On Tuesday, Feb. 4, President and Mrs. Bush will join NASA Administrator
Sean O'Keefe at the Johnson Space Center to pay tribute to Columbia's
astronauts during a special memorial service. The ceremony to honor
Columbia's seven crewmembers is scheduled to begin at 1 p.m. EST and will be
broadcast on NASA Television. The service is not open to the public.

The next STS-107 Accident Response briefings are on Monday, Feb. 3 at NASA
Headquarters in Washington at 11:30 a.m. EST and at the Johnson Space Center
at 4:30 p.m. EST. Status reports will be issued as developments warrant.

NASA TV can be found on AMC-2, Transponder 9C, vertical polarization at 85
degrees West longitude, 3880 MHz, with audio at 6.8 MHz.

ISSpaceGirl · Post by **ISSpaceGirl** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 3:29 pm

I think for all of us, this is a reminder of what our dreams can cost. If you are not willing to pay the price and take the risk, dont dare to dream so high. This is a message that we as a country and as a world seem to forget on a regular basis. War, tradegety and death serve as a reminder that our actions can cost, sometimes dearly. I know that there are several engineers who will have to live their lives with the knowledge that they probably caused those astronauts to lose their lives. The astronauts famillies will hopefully find comfort in the fact that they died on the way to their dreams, but it will still hurt. And the rest of the world will be reminded of the cost space flight can cost.

I personally know of no other way to dream than to dream big and I still would give my all to 'tast the sweet mystery just beyond my reach'. I also hope the world learns something from this tradgidy and doesn't just morn.

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 7:57 pm

Well said ISSspace girl. Well since ive been at school all afternoon i've fallen behind in posting PAO announcements. So here is the first of 3. Two more will follow.

Robert Mirelson
Headquarters, Washington

February 3, 2003

RELEASE: 03-041

NASA ANNOUNCES CORRECTED PROCEDURE FOR FILING DAMAGE CLAIMS

NASA is accepting claims from individuals who may have
suffered damage due to the Space Shuttle Columbia mishap. Any
person desiring to file a claim should complete U.S.
Government Standard Form 95, "Claim for Damage, Injury, or
Death" and send it to the closest of these NASA offices.

Office of the Chief Counsel
NASA Johnson Space Center
Mail Code: AL
2101 NASA Road 1
Houston, TX 77058
(281) 483-3021

Office of the General Counsel
NASA Headquarters
Mail Code: G
300 E St., SW
Washington, DC 20546
(202) 358-2450

Office of Chief Counsel
NASA Stennis Space Center
Mail Code: CA00
Building 1100
Stennis Space Center, MS 39529
(228) 688-2164

For more information on filing a claim, including
downloadable forms, call any of the above offices or go to:

www.hq.nasa.gov/ogc/general_law/torttext.html

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Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 7:59 pm

Here is PAO announcement number 2 for today still one more to come.

A STATEMENT FROM THE FAMILIES OF COLUMBIA

On January 16th, we saw our loved ones launch into a brilliant, cloud-free
sky. Their hearts were full of enthusiasm, pride in country, faith in their
God, and a willingness to accept risk in the pursuit of knowledge ---
knowledge that might improve the quality of life for all mankind. Columbia's
16-day mission of scientific discovery was a great success, cut short by
mere minutes ---- yet it will live on forever in our memories. We want to
thank the NASA family and people from around the world for their incredible
outpouring of love and support. Although we grieve deeply, as do the
families of Apollo 1 and Challenger before us, the bold exploration of space
must go on. Once the root cause of this tragedy is found and corrected, the
legacy of Columbia must carry on --- for the benefit of our children and
yours.

Approved by:

Robert Cabana/CA/Director, Flight Crew Operations
Feb. 3, 2003

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 8:02 pm

Here is PAO release 3.

Report #03-044

SHUTTLE COLUMBIA ACCIDENT PRESS CONFERENCE SCHEDULE CHANGED

Robert Mirelson
Headquarters, Washington February 3, 2003
(Phone: 202/3580-1600)

Eileen Hawley
Johnson Space Center, Houston
(Phone: 281/483-5111)

RELEASE: 03-044

SHUTTLE COLUMBIA ACCIDENT PRESS CONFERENCE SCHEDULE CHANGED

The press conference schedule for Tuesday, Feb. 4, 2003
has changed.

There will not be a NASA Headquarters press conference at
11:30 a.m. EST on Feb. 4. It has been cancelled out of
respect for the Space Shuttle Columbia crew memorial service
and to allow NASA employees to watch the tribute.

There will not be a 4:30 EST press conference at the Johnson
Space Center tomorrow. The 4:30 EST press conference for Feb.
4, 2003 will be in the NASA Headquarters auditorium, 300 E
Street SW, Washington.

The press conference will feature questions from reporters at
participating NASA centers and will be broadcast live on NASA
Television. There will be an 11:30 a.m. EST press conference
at NASA Headquarters and a 4:30 p.m. press conference at the
Johnson Space Center on Wednesday, Feb. 5, 2003.

NASA TV is available on AMC-2, transponder 9C, C-Band,
located at 85 degrees west longitude. The frequency is 3880.0
MHz. Polarization is vertical and audio is monaural at 6.8
MHz.

Additional information is available on the Internet at:

http://www.nasa.gov

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov

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