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Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby majtom7 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:51 pm

Has anyone heard anything new about adult campers staying at the Marriott?
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby p51 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:57 pm

majtom7 wrote:Has anyone heard anything new about adult campers staying at the Marriott?

You mean officially, as part of the package? That's news to me, but it'd be great if it's true.
I've known several people who stayed at the Marriott the entire time they were at SC, but I've yet to do so.
I was at the week-long 'train with an astronaut' program in 2016 and the HAB1 started to get old after about the 4th day or so. I can cope with almost any living arrangement for a couple of days (based on my military experience), but a week in the HAB? I'd already decided the next time I go (assuming it's a 3-day session), I was going to hit the hotel anyway. It's too much like a throwback to my days in barracks cantonment areas in the Army. I tell people that everyone should experience at least one night in the HAB to get the feel for it, but there's no reason to keep at it if you can afford a night in the Marriott instead.
If not the Marriott, then one of the other hotels just up Governors House Drive is almost as good (though you'll have to drive back and forth). I've stayed in the Hilton Garden Inn and the Extended Stay America the night before a SC in the past and each is okay (though the latter is mostly used by travelling companies). The Marriott, though way more expensive, is clearly the better hotel and of course, it's right there across the fence from the HAB.
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby majtom7 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:59 pm

p51 wrote:You mean officially, as part of the package? That's news to me, but it'd be great if it's true.


Jawohl! When I first heard it, I could understand the reasoning for wanting to separate adults from the kids, especially since apparently there have been incidents. However, I have my doubts based on the cost of the rooms plus the need (and cost) to provide transportation twice a day.
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby blachwk » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:27 pm

I called SC and asked regarding staying at the Marriott or any discounts if I decided on doing Adult Academy and didn't want to stay in the hab. I was told for a $200 additional fee you could stay at the Marriott and not in the hab. I did use a specific date as an example which was a 3 day so I do not know what the price difference would be for a 4 day or Adult Advanced Academy. Hope this helps!
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby majtom7 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:32 am

blachwk wrote:I called SC and asked regarding staying at the Marriott or any discounts if I decided on doing Adult Academy and didn't want to stay in the hab. I was told for a $200 additional fee you could stay at the Marriott and not in the hab. I did use a specific date as an example which was a 3 day so I do not know what the price difference would be for a 4 day or Adult Advanced Academy. Hope this helps!


Thanks for sharing! So two nights for $200. A quick check of the USSRC hotel discounts shows the same "rate" before taxes, etc. Interesting... The sense I got was that USSRC wanted the adults out of the Hab. Maybe not if it's only an option...
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby SpaceCanada » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:48 pm

majtom7 - You were away for our team debrief session last year. I'm not sure how much I can or should make public, but there were comments made about the Hab being overly crowded (both Hab1 and 2 were FULL), and adults wanting more space and privacy. Corporate and adult camps may be housed in the Marriott in the near future, removing the option to stay at the Hab. But, we all know that great ideas may never come to fruition, so I wouldn't put too much hope behind it until it actually happens. Right now, it's currently an add-on option for most/all adult programmes. Transportation back and forth isn't provided, and I couldn't imagine it would be provided in the future either, unless someone had specific mobility needs - it's only a 5 minute walk.

Personally, I don't mind staying in Hab 1, especially with the new non-slamming doors, but I could be part of the minority. Sure, I've had to use my outdoor voice indoors to help the counsellors get unruly kids to behave, but it's pretty rare.
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby majtom7 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:21 am

SpaceCanada wrote:- it's only a 5 minute walk


Maybe if you're a triathlete... ;) and it's not raining... and could go through the Hab1 door like pre 9/11...
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby majtom7 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:42 am

SpaceCanada wrote: there were comments made about the Hab being overly crowded (both Hab1 and 2 were FULL), and adults wanting more space and privacy. Corporate and adult camps may be housed in the Marriott in the near future, removing the option to stay at the Hab. But, we all know that great ideas may never come to fruition, so I wouldn't put too much hope behind it until it actually happens.


See what happens when you miss meetings? ;) It may happen if USSRC is so busy that they need to make it happen (which would be a good "problem" for them to have) or it may never happen as it sounds like we had a perfect storm that week.

I say put an adult dorm where the Saturn V was. ;) von Braun's Happy Bottom Riding Club LOL
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby SpaceCanada » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:27 am

majtom7 wrote:I say put an adult dorm where the Saturn V was. ;) von Braun's Happy Bottom Riding Club LOL

Best suggestion, ever! Too bad their recent funding went to the robotics and new security/coding camps. Even portable (trailer) dorms would be nice - and more economical.

The walk is closer to 15 minutes, you're right, the time flies when speaking with friends on that walk. But, you would have to factor it into your schedule and come prepared for the day so you only have to walk across the parking lot once each way. Plus, many people make the trek over there in the evening anyway, so they're already walking there and back.a
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby Hotdog » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:02 am

FYI - Just got back from Space Camp Summerfest and the Marriott has begun renovating the hotel. All of the rooms are being remodeled, and they are putting a Starbucks in where the old Otters was. This should all be done by this time next year (50th anniversary of Apollo 11). I'm told each room will have a "space" theme.
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby p51 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:34 am

Hotdog wrote:FYI - Just got back from Space Camp Summerfest and the Marriott has begun renovating the hotel. All of the rooms are being remodeled, and they are putting a Starbucks in where the old Otters was.

Geez, another Starbucks? Yeah, if the Marriott needed one thing, it's was one of those... :roll:
Hotdog wrote:I'm told each room will have a "space" theme.
Now that's a good idea. That said, one time I checked in there, I was carrying my NASA-patched helmet bag and someone asked what the deal was there. When I explained, she said she had no idea the hotel was adjacent to any NASA facility. I could resist asking, "You mean you didn't notice all the rockets as you first pulled up, right behind this building?" 8O
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Postby majtom7 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:46 pm

SpaceCanada wrote: Even portable (trailer) dorms would be nice - and more economical.


I made that suggestion to them back in 1993 after doing a 24 hour EDM. There was no quiet place for anyone to grab a nap if they had downtime the first 2 shifts. Some trailers out in the back seemed like a simple and like you said, economical, improvement.
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby Hotdog » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:11 am

Starbucks inside a Marriott seems to be a normal thing. The Marriott resort that hosts SPACEFEST in Tucson also has a Starbucks. That being said, I can tell you there are not too many people that are happy about this. Otters has long been the unofficial Space Camp watering hole of legend, and wiping it out of existence would be the same as wiping out the Happy Bottom Riding Club from Edwards. This is a very sad time. A great piece of our history is being removed. :(
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Postby p51 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:01 pm

Hotdog wrote:Starbucks inside a Marriott seems to be a normal thing. The Marriott resort that hosts SPACEFEST in Tucson also has a Starbucks. That being said, I can tell you there are not too many people that are happy about this. Otters has long been the unofficial Space Camp watering hole of legend, and wiping it out of existence would be the same as wiping out the Happy Bottom Riding Club from Edwards. This is a very sad time. A great piece of our history is being removed. :(

Otters was an empty shell the last time I was there in 2016, so I won't be quite as crushed now as I was to see the bar in a totally different spot as I'd remembered it.
At least I made to Otter's on my first two trips to SC.
I live somewhat close to where Starbucks was founded, and they're everywhere here. I won't be walking into there the next time I find myself there. I swear it feels like this scene from the Simpson's is coming true:
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby majtom7 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:58 pm

Are the Hab room doors steel or something else?
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby SpaceCanada » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:37 am

majtom7 wrote:Are the Hab room doors steel or something else?

The older style doors in Hab1 are plastic. The one on our room last year was wood. I'm not sure what material the newest set of doors are made of, since they renovated the doors after we were there last. Might be a good question for Vincent, Benji, Steve, or someone more local to camp.

Some of the doors in Hab2 are steel, but most are the older plastic type. I have no idea how those doors held up better than the ones in Hab1, unless they kept replacing them.
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Re: Adult Camp Accomodations

Postby majtom7 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:31 pm

SpaceCanada wrote:The older style doors in Hab1 are plastic. The one on our room last year was wood. I'm not sure what material the newest set of doors are made of, since they renovated the doors after we were there last. Might be a good question for Vincent, Benji, Steve, or someone more local to camp.

Some of the doors in Hab2 are steel, but most are the older plastic type. I have no idea how those doors held up better than the ones in Hab1, unless they kept replacing them.


I remember the old plastic covered doors. The Hab2 doors may have held up better to less usage.
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