OLD Mach 3 sim room
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OLD Mach 3 sim room
I was just wondering something. Back when i went to aviation challenge Intermediate (now Mach 3) the sims we used were in a decent sized room attached to the bubble and not in the barn where they are now. I know this summer when i visited they were in the new location. I was just wondering what is the old room used for now if anything. Back in 96 it has 6 or 7 of the old simulators a console that the counselors conducted the sim stuff from a briefing room upstairs and i believe there was also a restroom in the building too. So what is there now if anything? and when did they change the sims over to the current models they have and when did they move to the current location?
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Mach 3 sims
We replaced the old F-4/F-16 style cockpits in 1999 with the current system. We kept that system there until 2001 and moved them to the Barn (Hab 3). The new bird farm (sim bays) is where all of the sims are housed for M1,2, and 3. We converted the bubble area into classroom space, which you all know is a premium at AC.
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Thanks for the info. Ok new question is the ward room aka the building over by the volley ball courts now used for classrooms also? I know its not used for a dining hall anymore like it was when i was there in 96.
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I was at AC Mach III in April 1997, and we ate all of our meals over at camp. If I am thinking of the correct building, we used it for learning about the components of the flight gear... and then because there were only 7 of us that week, and we thought it was really cool, our counselor (Joker) let us wear them to lunch. It was a good time
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Well sounds like they didnt keep serving lunch there much beyond the year i was there. We actually learned the diffrent flight gear in diffrent lectures. The helmet O2 mask and stuff like that was talked about when learning about ejection procdures. Survival equipment that each pilot has when he or she bails out was learned about in land survival and obviously life rafts and flotation devices were discussed in water survival. Would still like to know what that building is used for now though.
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Your team eating in the wardroom during 1996 was an aberration. Only about six weeks of trainees experienced that during the cafeteria remodeling. There was simply no other way to do it.
When I left, that building was converted into a massive storage facility by Top Kick for storing flightsuits and other survival equipment directly related to E&E.
While I was there, we used the building for classrooms, storage, even a swanky adult camp reception.
When I left, that building was converted into a massive storage facility by Top Kick for storing flightsuits and other survival equipment directly related to E&E.
While I was there, we used the building for classrooms, storage, even a swanky adult camp reception.
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Actually when i was there in 96 there didnt appear to be any cafeteria remodelling going on at the time. The cafeteria was still the same as it had been in 91 and 93 there was no obvious work going on anywhere in there. We still ate breakfast and dinner at the space camp cafeteria. And it seems to me someone on my team who had been to mach 2the year before said they ate there in 95 also.
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Yeah. We used that room near the trailers to do a couple land survival lectures and first aid before they opened the other camo trailer (which I have heard has been repainted a couple times so not sure its still camo)behind the bubble. When I first did Mach 3 the sims were in that building connected to the bubble, we did T-Ops (the original really cool T-Ops is still the best)upstairs every time I went. But I love the new tower they made in the barn for the new sims. It's just cool looking. The best thing about AC is those counselors put so much work... I remember hearing through e-mails about their endeavors building a new bridge for the thing they started doing before E&E. AC rocks. Can't wait to go as an adult one day.
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In 1995, what I remember being told was that trainees ate at Aviation Challenge during most weeks of the summer - during 1996 the cafeteria and resulting food court were being built to their current configuration. The cafeteria and food court opened sometime in the early fall 1996 if memory serves me correctly.LB206 wrote:Actually when i was there in 96 there didnt appear to be any cafeteria remodelling going on at the time. The cafeteria was still the same as it had been in 91 and 93 there was no obvious work going on anywhere in there. We still ate breakfast and dinner at the space camp cafeteria. And it seems to me someone on my team who had been to mach 2the year before said they ate there in 95 also.
After that summer, no meals were served at Aviation Challenge, mainly for health and sanitation reasons. Logistics were also difficult, but livable under some situations. I can remember some other sporadic meals taking place at AC, but mainly for special events and such.
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When i was there in april 1996, the cafeteria you were mentioning was in working order.. i do not remember the public cafeteria that was added next to it until the following april... that was a looooooooooong time ago though, so i could be wrong.
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In defense of my compadre, Knight 6.....it was 1997 when the cafe was redone. Construction began in JAN 97 and was completed later in the year. We served the cold (still frozen) ham and cheese sandwiches with lemonade (can still taste the sweet nectar) out of the "wardroom".
Rat is correct about the conditions and we stopped, only to try it again 1998. Once again....it failed.
I will agree with one and all. Rat and I wrote the original T-Ops briefing and it remains our favorite. The plan was to provide massive information overload and make it difficult to operate in a combat environment, while giving the aircrews and opportunity to hone their ACM skills. I feel like we meet those goals. We were able to move sim time from 6 hours to close to 15-20 hours based on which course you came to. I’ve been gone for over a year now, so I have no idea what they are doing….but I feel that the 1996-199 time period was a special time for AC.
Rat is correct about the conditions and we stopped, only to try it again 1998. Once again....it failed.
I will agree with one and all. Rat and I wrote the original T-Ops briefing and it remains our favorite. The plan was to provide massive information overload and make it difficult to operate in a combat environment, while giving the aircrews and opportunity to hone their ACM skills. I feel like we meet those goals. We were able to move sim time from 6 hours to close to 15-20 hours based on which course you came to. I’ve been gone for over a year now, so I have no idea what they are doing….but I feel that the 1996-199 time period was a special time for AC.
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Well.....as many things as Spanky, Joker, Gordo, Fidget, Grunt, Doolittle and the rest of us did that changed the face of the Aviation Challenge program, I think I can be forgiven for getting the dates wrong.
I humbly bow to Spanky's magnificence....at least he's still my best friend ten years after the fact.
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