Hab or Marriott?

zachgroff · Post by **zachgroff** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:44 pm

hey... who you calling a minor

besides... i don't know how id be today if it wasn't for meeting jenn 7 months ago...

sts205cdr · Post by **sts205cdr** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:09 pm

Unless you knocked up an underage girl at camp or anywhere else, I don't think I was referring to your situation at all, Zach.

In any case, it's none of my business, I was just wondering what PDA meant...

Getting back to the topic, I totally agree that staying in the Hab is a big part of the team-building experience of Camp. In my case, we're already a team, but beig spread all over the country it's taken a lot of shorter trips together to get to this point.

--John

zachgroff · Post by **zachgroff** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:30 pm

well i guess 17 is still minor age.. i was just messing with you...

sts205cdr · Post by **sts205cdr** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:52 pm

Ah, well I respect you as a fellow astronaut trainee no matter what. That goes without saying, though...

The Hab is kinda dreary at night, I agree with that sentiment. On the other hand, try spending a week on an aircraft carrier! At Camp, though, I'm usually so hyped up with excitement, we all are, that we kinda gravitate over to the hotel. The food is great, and a couple nights we stayed up playing songs on the piano in the lobby.

--John

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:54 pm

I agree that living in the hab definately helps to build team unity. And your also right that hopefully campers adult and youth should take the example of the astronauts and act as professional as possible even with the opposite sex while at camp. Don't get me wrong if you meet someone at camp and end up together thats great just as long as while at camp you dont let it affect you too much as well as affect the team by distracting them from the real reason your there.

zachgroff · Post by **zachgroff** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:57 pm

my only thoughts on that though is the hab (at least my room) was in disrepair with the walls pealing and two of the rooms on the 4th floor leaked from what i hear and that girls room had to move to a "dryer room" i think sleeping in the hab would be much more meaning ful if the rooms did smell better, better lit, and in good order..

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 6:06 pm

Well it seems to me the disrepair seems to be happening in the last couple of years. When i was there 5 years ago the rooms were in pretty good shape and didnt stink from what i could remember. I remember when i went back as a tourist a few months later they were actually fixing up and cleaning some rooms of the habs at the time during the slow season. I guess the dissrepair comes from the financial problems of recent years.

Benji · Post by **Benji** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 8:50 pm

The worst part is the bedding. It is soooo uncomfortable!

zachgroff · Post by **zachgroff** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 8:52 pm

yeah.. and as small/thin as the sheets were they didnt stay on the beds.. i think they just went for cheap so if anything happened to them, they could easily be replaced...

Post by **Vincent** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 8:53 pm

I always slept like a baby at camp!

I love the Habs!

Still...the Marriott is quite nice...just make sure to ask for a room with a view of the USSRC!

Nothing like waking up and seeing the Pathfinder out your window!

sts205cdr · Post by **sts205cdr** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 8:54 pm

"Though these doors..." Indeed! It's all part of the experience, and it's really not all that different from the problems faced when living in space, you gotta admit. One night we froze like being in the Antartic at midnight, yep. And the next night, when I stocked up on Hab blankets, it was like bedding down in the Sahara at noon! What can you do? Adapt and Overcome. Once you learn to live in that environment, it's all trivial from there on...

And THAT'S why I call Room Service nowadays!

--John

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:10 pm

Something else ive noticed is they provide sheets pillow cases and blankets now but no longer provide washcloths or towels to trainees while at camp. Thats just something new i noticed in this years brochre. Anyway your right the hab is part of the experiance and it is ussualy freezing except my last year. Aparent;y whoever had mt room the week before figured out how to close the ac vent somewhat so not as much cold air was coming in. We didnt even notice it till the week was almost over. We were lucky the room was verry comfortable.

sts205cdr · Post by **sts205cdr** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:11 pm

I know that view well, Vincent, I woke up to it on my first day at Camp! The photos never did it justice!

--John

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:16 pm

Pathfinder is always a beautiful sight. But the one thing ill always remember as my first sigting of space camp was the Saturn 1. The first year i went back in 91 my dad drove me to camp and that was the first thing of the space and rocket center and space camp that i'd seen. Having seen it in the movie space camp many times i knew that was the place and knew id arrived. So it will always stand out in my mind even more than pathfinder.

sts205cdr · Post by **sts205cdr** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:38 pm

LB206 wrote:...i...knew id arrived.

You said it all, thanks, bro.

--John

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:42 pm

Well i guess the Saturn V replica would take that place for new arivals now since i'm sure it stands out above anyting else their at the space and rocket center.

sts205cdr · Post by **sts205cdr** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:48 pm

Speaking as a "New Arrival," yes, it brought tears to my eyes.

No more than seeing Armstrong walk on the Moon, but still...

--John

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 10:08 pm

Well hopefully i'll get down there again sometime in the near future so i can see it first hand. And hopefully they can get the financial situation in better shape so they can do all of the changes the currator told my tour group about when i visited the space and rocket center in october 98. The Saturn V was supose to be the first of many at the time.

sts205cdr · Post by **sts205cdr** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 10:41 pm

Yeah, the LUT restaurant, the CM access arm...a lot of plans that were shelved (but not, hopefully, abandoned). A man died building that replica. When they finish those plans some day, it will no doubt be named after him...

I was under the impression that the Camp was running at or near the Black these days. I'm certainly trying to do my part!

--John

Boomerang · Post by **Boomerang** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:04 pm

Well you mentioned a few of the plans dealing with the Saturn V but there were many more planned for the museum and camp. At the time they had plans to house space camp in a specificly built training center building, expand the habs, expand the museum into 2 seperate buildings one for the army collection one for the NASA collection (the museum currently has less than half of its total collection on display), Originaly the real Saturn V was going to be erected upright but was determined to be impractical so the replica was built, There would also be a building that would serve as a welcoming centerfor the whole complex, and a monorail linking everything for visitors, Ac was also to be expanded but they didnt elaborate on it as much. Also the one thing that i was looking forward to but from what someone told me has been shelved if not abandoned was they were going to work to open a star trek space camp in cooperation with paramount. Atleast those are the changes i can remember the former curator telling us about when i visited in 98 a fe months after camp.