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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:05 am
by gt0163c
pilotgirl21 wrote:If I landed the shuttle on Friday night, then everybody lands the shuttle, LOL. I did land in the forest with the payload bay doors open, but we survived.
At least you got the landing gear down...right. :)

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:41 pm
by Hotdog
yeah really...which makes pilotgirl better than the pilot I had when I commanded Discovery on my '92 mission!

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:48 pm
by pilotgirl21
LOL, just ask my shuttlemates! I didn't kill them landing in the actual mission, but they died about 4 times during the mission training.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:33 pm
by Mercergl
well, at least it wasn't your fault! :wink:

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:51 pm
by Richasi
Yes, I do have to say that Lisa did - at least - get us on the ground. Now, ask her how she took off in the AC sims... ;)

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:04 pm
by Mercergl
ok, i'll bite, how?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:25 am
by pilotgirl21
Richasi wrote:Yes, I do have to say that Lisa did - at least - get us on the ground. Now, ask her how she took off in the AC sims... ;)
I never did quite take off. I couldn't take off the wheel brakes. Somebody from the sim controls just put us into the air. And you should ask Ricky how he did on those AC sims...LOL!

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:30 am
by Hotdog
did you shoot him down? what were you flying?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:32 am
by pilotgirl21
Hotdog wrote:did you shoot him down? what were you flying?
LOL, no I didn't shoot him down. He was my "backseat flyer". I don't think he even flew any of the sims at AC. When we did switch places, all of a sudden it was time to go. And I have no idea what I was flying.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:22 pm
by JennieM
When I was there from 1991-1993, all videos were for show only. Just like the Multi-Axis trainer, the joystick couldn't control anything. However, with the computers we had at the sims desk, we could see if the correct switches were thrown. That was some of the basis for the grading of the missions.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:11 pm
by Benji
I guess the whole topic depends on how liberally you can define the term 'land'.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:19 pm
by Mercergl
I think that generally
'land" means making it to the ground. Doing it while staying alive and not blowing up is an added bonus :wink:

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:48 pm
by Princess
I had an extra day before I left and I landed 3 out of 10 times on the museum simulator…

unless you count crashing as I did “land” on the runway… :lol:

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:55 pm
by pilotgirl21
Princess wrote:I had an extra day before I left and I landed 3 out of 10 times on the museum simulator…

unless you count crashing as I did “land” on the runway… :lol:
After camp was over and we had time to kill, Ricky and I spent some time doing those museum landing sims.

I landed on my 5th try I think it was. Well, if you think about it, I had 4 practice tries in mission training in which I crashed the shuttle and I landed it during the mission, which was the 5th try then. I guess if I were to ever fly the shuttle, I have to have practiced in groups of 5 or something.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:57 pm
by des
At my little space camp we never got the simulator software to work. I found a video of a heads up display on youtube.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9elcSXVNlMw)
It's pretty cool. I told the kids they weren't flying it, but I bet if I hadn't said anything, had big speakers under the chair, and hid the fact that the joystick doesn't really work... hmmm. Some kids were able to suspend belief anyway.

I think this is essentially what the old sims at SC did. Of course the hydraulic base was good. I am sure the video quality wasn't anything this good.

--des

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:45 am
by Benji
Mercergl wrote:I think that generally
'land" means making it to the ground. Doing it while staying alive and not blowing up is an added bonus :wink:
Well, everybody makes it to the ground. Some people end up in the swamp with their payload bay doors open and gear up, though I don't think that applies to anyone here *ahem*.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:32 am
by monkeynautt
Visual inspection showed that the doors were closed.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:53 pm
by pilotgirl21
Benji wrote:Well, everybody makes it to the ground. Some people end up in the swamp with their payload bay doors open and gear up, though I don't think that applies to anyone here *ahem*.
Ummm yeah, I don't think that applies to anyone on this forum at all Benji!

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:02 pm
by des
I guess what I mean was whether you have any control of the Shuttle or if you are just pushing buttons and moving the stick and watching a video.

Today I told the kids we were going to get the Shuttle in orbit and then they could have a break and really go in orbit! ;-)


--des
Benji wrote:I guess the whole topic depends on how liberally you can define the term 'land'.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:02 pm
by ApolloXI
monkeynautt wrote:Visual inspection showed that the doors were closed.
Trust me guys when I saw this Binary Star the software that SC uses is full of bugs they have had issues with Payload bay doors since my group in x-mas camp of '03 tested it out.