Color Teams

[Richasi]

I don't proclaim myself to be an expert so I'm not embarrased to ask...

Were the Level II teams called by colors back in 1985? In the movie of course they use Blue, yellow, green, purple and red team.

Excuse me if this had been asked before

Richasi

[Boomerang]

To be honest i have no idea if they ever used color teams. But it seems to me even though the ages were way off that the team in the movie were Academy Level 1. Atleast thats the sims they were using. Might have had something to do with the fact Enterprise and Atlantis were being used to film the space scenes.

[Richasi]

I'm not sure... but if you look at Kathryn's book while she and Tish are talking about the Multi-Axis trainer... it says Level 2 on it. I think you can also see it in one of the mission control scenes as well (the one where max is flying the atari console - for a lack of a better term).

I just assumed it was Level 2. The actors seemed to project the late teen age that would fit that program. Maybe it says in the book... heck if I can remember now.

But one of the things that cought me off guard when I went to camp in 1989 was the lack of the color teams. Maybe it had grown so much by then... or it was just a movie thing.

Ricky

[Boomerang]

Well i think your right about it saying level 2 on the books. But the books also say Space Camp so its possible at that time Academy level 1 might have been referred to as space camp level 2. I dont know. I just know they were using academy 1 simulators.

[Richasi]

At the time though they didn't have a whole lot of sims... Atlantis was new, Discovery and Columbia were probably the only ones there - if not just Atlantis and Columbia. I don't really know but that seems plausable. I'd love to get my hands on the older guide books to know for sure.

[Boomerang]

Well i know for a fact Enterprise was there because its cargo bay was used to film the scenes outside the shuttle in the movie. Although when the movie was filmed Enterprise had a diffrent name. Back then it was called Challenger. Ofcourse the Atlantis was used for the interior shots. As for columbia that training center photo from the 88 guide doesnt show columbia at all but something that doesnt even look like a shuttle in its space so i assume thats the old camp simulator. As for discovery we see it in the movie.

[Richasi]

I don't know what they were called originally, I'm just guessing here.

Also, the patch on the front of Kathryn's note book is the movie patch...and the movie is "SpaceCamp" afterall, so I dunno. I'd still say it was Academy, Level 2.

It'd be too hard to really know considering its a jumble of everything they had and it is a movie

[Boomerang]

Well it might be supose to represent academy level 2 but it looks more like academy when you see the activities they do and the sims they use. I'm guessing they didnt use Challenger (Enterprise) because the cargo bay was used for shooting the exterior space shots in the movie.

[Richasi]

I'll have to pop in the DVD again and take note of details... however, I know the book deals with the events in a two week period. At the time the movie was made Academy Level II was 10 days, or two weeks (working). So I'd say it was modeled after that program regardless of what simulators were used.

[Boomerang]

Well it might be supose to represent academy level 2. You're reight alot of the evidence points to that but the movie shows stuff that closer to academy 1 probably because that stuff looks better on film.

[ApolloXI]

When Andie is explaining what the five degrees of freedom and walking the blue team into the sim a group comes out. Pay close attetion to that group. One of the guys in the group dropps his binder whith a sheepes look on his face right after he dropped it. Plus the sim they are coming out of say The Right Stuff on the right side. Who was ever thier in '89 did they use a name like Armstrong, Shepard? If they did they might have just used colors for the movie.

[Boomerang]

Your right the sim they come out of does say The Right Stuff at the time and its even refered to as Atlantis but its still the same sim they use as discovery today although they moved the arm to the other side because of the orientation in the new training center. They may not have had a name on it at the time. However i know someone whos son worked on the film and told me the sim that currently has the name atlantis on the side is what they used for space scenes in the orbiter and cargo bay scenes ive been told were filmed in the enterprise cargo bay. I get the impression at some point the sims may not have had names on the there is a picture in either the 88 or 89 broichure that clearly shows the front of Enterprise but has no name on it. And to clear up some earlier confusion they couldnt have been academy level 2 because it didnt exist at the time. The programs were refered to As Space Caqmp Level 1 and Space Camp level 2 acording to an old promotional video filmed sometime around the time of the movie.

[Hotdog]

Who was ever thier in '89 did they use a name like Armstrong, Shepard? If they did they might have just used colors for the movie.

In 1989 there were no Shepard or Armstrong teams. Historical names came later in the mid to late 90s. The planetary names from the early days were gone by that time too. Team names were only of Camp sponsors which were mostly aerospace companies like Boeing, Rockwell, Thiokol, Martin Marietta, etc. but other sponsors like Coca Cola and Delta were team names also.

[Boomerang]

actually planetary team names were still around in 91 as i recall alomg with sponsor names

[Spanky]

Here is the break down on team names when Camp and Camp Level 2 came online.

In 1982, we used the 9 planets plus the Sun and Moon as the team names. That held in place for several years.

In 1984 when Camp Level 2 (now Space Acadmey) came on, we used orbiter names. (Discovery, Columbia, Challenger and Atlantis).

In 1987 when Academy Level 2 came on line, they only ran one team so we did not have a team name, just your week number.

As far as the orbiters, in 1982 we were allowed to name our orbiter for our mission. I was on the SUN team in June of 1982 and we chose Excalibur. In 1983, on the Jupiter, they started calling the cockpit (that's all we had) Columbia. In 1984, Discovery became the new sim for Camp Level 2. In 1986, Space Camp got the cockpits, etc. from the movie SpaceCamp. The Atlantis cockpit sat in the museum for several months and was eventually moved to the TCF to be used in Academy Level 2 (now ASA). Enterprise was not ready for use in 1987 when Academy Level 2 came online. I was at the send week of Academy Level 2 (late August 1987) and Atlantis was still in movie form. Even the CRT's would display the same stuff from the movie. You could even move the CXT swith that Trish used to contact Launch Control (remember, they stayed at LC the whol time the orbiter was in orbit).

What a time!!

[Richasi]

Wow! Talk about resurrecting an old post of mine

We've finally heard it from the experts!