Moon Hoax theories....
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Moon Hoax theories....
For some reason the moon hoax has become popular again. I don't understand why, there's plenty of evidence to back up that we really did go to the moon. It bugs me when people don't believe it, i point to the evidence and i'm like, the evidence is right there why cant you see it, I completely and totally believe that we went to the moon. What are your comments on the new popularity of the moon hoax theories.
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I haven't heard any Moon hoax stories in ages... mostly because everyone I talk to believes we did go to the Moon, obviously.
I do have a funny episode of a show called 'The Passionate Eye' (a CBC documentary series) about Moon hoaxes. The show goes on and on and gets famous big name astronauts and things to say the Moon landing was a hoax, etc. Then at the very end there is a 10-second blurb about how we DID go to the Moon but the media has such influence on our lives that they can do just about anything and get you to believe whatever they want. Scary thought, isn't it? It's still a great video, and I watch it for a good laugh every so often.
I do have a funny episode of a show called 'The Passionate Eye' (a CBC documentary series) about Moon hoaxes. The show goes on and on and gets famous big name astronauts and things to say the Moon landing was a hoax, etc. Then at the very end there is a 10-second blurb about how we DID go to the Moon but the media has such influence on our lives that they can do just about anything and get you to believe whatever they want. Scary thought, isn't it? It's still a great video, and I watch it for a good laugh every so often.
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That's good there's not been much where you are. Around here, a lot of people don't believe it. In history class they were talking about it, and i got soooo mad i walked out of class, because everyone was trying to convince me that it never happened. I was soo mad. I'm a real believer in it so i get really mad lol. Just wondering what it was like where you all are too, if there's many people who don't believe it.
(sorry about posting this like 5 times, my computer messed up and sent it through like 5 times so i deleted them. But i'm sorry that ahppened)
(sorry about posting this like 5 times, my computer messed up and sent it through like 5 times so i deleted them. But i'm sorry that ahppened)
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same here i get mad too!... i was watching comedy central and some comedian was talking about why she is paying taxes for a space program that the only thing they have contributed to socitey is a fake moon landing and matress that when you jump on it that the wine wont spill.. and i was sitting there nameing off all the things they have given us... velcrow, the veined swimming suits, and so on... oo i got so fired up...lol
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actually velcro was not developed for or by NASA and its development had niothing to do with the space program. It was patented around the time of sputnik. However the space program has made extensive use of it.
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Lol, i think i saw that one, well some of it, when they were talking about that i changed the channel, i was sooo mad. NASA has done soo much for us, and we DID go to the moon no matter what anyone says. I think you're anti-american if you don't believe in it. Even the russians believed it, and it had to have taken a lot for the russians to believe it. They wouldn't believe just anything. Anyways, yeah, and i walked out of class, but i got detention. I was really mad, because i don't think people should teach in a matter of opinion, i think it should be based on solid facts and information, the teachers shouldn't teach to their opinion. Like in my religion class (i go to catholic school) it's all opinion and it bothers me, and now history class is al opinion. Ugg it just really bothers me. I found a really good site that i tell people to go to though about the moon hoax thing, proving it's real. http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/ it gives proof that it was real, the sites that say it's real don't even have solid proof. So yeah lol, sorry i'm going on like this, it just really bugs me when people don't believe me, and i couldn't say anything at school so yeah, sorry lol. But anyways. i'll stop now. Talk to you all later.jagsvolleyball14 wrote:same here i get mad too!... i was watching comedy central and some comedian was talking about why she is paying taxes for a space program that the only thing they have contributed to socitey is a fake moon landing and matress that when you jump on it that the wine wont spill.. and i was sitting there nameing off all the things they have given us... velcrow, the veined swimming suits, and so on... oo i got so fired up...lol
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WOW lol, good for him!!!!!!!!!DanM wrote:Buzz Aldrin punched a guy who beleived the moon hoax!
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Send every moron who rationalizes we didn't go to the Moon to www.badastronomy.com. Find the section on the Moon hoax and tell them to read, apply the science, and then try rationalizing it.
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Actually checked that out.....good site!!!
Great points as to why we landed on the moon.
Great points as to why we landed on the moon.
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Or maybe because we had the funding. No bucks, no Buck Rogers. Whichever.
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Hi,
Here's one thing newer members are for, and that's for resurrecting long dead posts plus it's near Easter, but I digress...
I'm not sure that Aldrin REALLY punched someone who believed in the moon
hoax! Could be photoshopped.
However, I just saw a National Geographic program "Is it Real?" that probably was 5 years old. Anyway I hadn't seen it and it was all the old moon hoax "proofs" and then the answer to them. And then some other reasons to show that it happened. I don't know why people bother with these nutcases but it was kind of interesting. I'm sure many of these people believe the world is flat (Friedman does, but I digress again ).
I do run into a LOT of people who say why should we go into space "we just got velcro and tang". Look what we can do with this money (in the extremely unlikely to non- possibility that we would spend it on anything socially-- and they name things that we would never spend it on). I just go nuts! But I found an extremely helpful site. Also there is the stat running around that something like for every $1 spent by NASA $7 (and I have heard it as high as $25 or so) goes into the US economy.
Actually Tang is a bit of myth too. Tang was invented by General Foods. I still see the claims that astronauts drank it, but Aldrin says this was not true. The technology may be a little similar but we had Kool-Aid and it is basically Kool Aid with some natural flavor, so I don't see it as new. Kool Aid was invented in 1930. Orange juice is not dehydrated and it really can't be done. Those so-called space ice cream bars were not ever taken to space either, to my knowledge.
The freeze drying process was developed by NASA and the ice cream bars were a demonstration or educational program. But most adults think the idea is pretty gross. Kids a lot of time like them, and they do have a lot of sugar so that figures.
BTW, NASA says it doesn't spend a lot of time debunking space invention myths because basically they say so many people have so much bad to say.
Anyway here is the page: ttp://www.thespaceplace.com/nasa/spinoffs.html
There is also an explanation of the actual percentage of the US budget NASA represents.
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Here's one thing newer members are for, and that's for resurrecting long dead posts plus it's near Easter, but I digress...
I'm not sure that Aldrin REALLY punched someone who believed in the moon
hoax! Could be photoshopped.
However, I just saw a National Geographic program "Is it Real?" that probably was 5 years old. Anyway I hadn't seen it and it was all the old moon hoax "proofs" and then the answer to them. And then some other reasons to show that it happened. I don't know why people bother with these nutcases but it was kind of interesting. I'm sure many of these people believe the world is flat (Friedman does, but I digress again ).
I do run into a LOT of people who say why should we go into space "we just got velcro and tang". Look what we can do with this money (in the extremely unlikely to non- possibility that we would spend it on anything socially-- and they name things that we would never spend it on). I just go nuts! But I found an extremely helpful site. Also there is the stat running around that something like for every $1 spent by NASA $7 (and I have heard it as high as $25 or so) goes into the US economy.
Actually Tang is a bit of myth too. Tang was invented by General Foods. I still see the claims that astronauts drank it, but Aldrin says this was not true. The technology may be a little similar but we had Kool-Aid and it is basically Kool Aid with some natural flavor, so I don't see it as new. Kool Aid was invented in 1930. Orange juice is not dehydrated and it really can't be done. Those so-called space ice cream bars were not ever taken to space either, to my knowledge.
The freeze drying process was developed by NASA and the ice cream bars were a demonstration or educational program. But most adults think the idea is pretty gross. Kids a lot of time like them, and they do have a lot of sugar so that figures.
BTW, NASA says it doesn't spend a lot of time debunking space invention myths because basically they say so many people have so much bad to say.
Anyway here is the page: ttp://www.thespaceplace.com/nasa/spinoffs.html
There is also an explanation of the actual percentage of the US budget NASA represents.
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Wow! Well I hope he isn't getting off the wagon or something. He is a recovering alcoholic-- actually wrote a book on it "Return to Earth". Which is much more about his bouts with depression and alcoholism than the moon landing (though there is some good stuff about that too).
OTOH, though I am normally non-violent, the guy mighta deserved it. :-}
I get pretty angry about with the young earth, moon hoax, Intelligent design etc and the general degree of scientific illiteracy around. Though I've never punched anyone. OTOH, I haven't been there either.
Apparently, there was a very involved Fox news thing on the "moon hoax".
Apparently the Fox show (surprises of surprises) was weighted heavily pro-hoax. I found this website: www.badastronomy.com that is a really nice explanation of the reasons (as well as other good stuff like the Mars faces). At least the National Geographic program was totally the other way. It was anti-hoax, and took each issue raised and refuted it fairly firmly. It clearly portrayed the pro-hoaxers as unreasonable nutcases, often fooled by their lack of science knowledge. In some cases, the questions raised were interesting though.
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OTOH, though I am normally non-violent, the guy mighta deserved it. :-}
I get pretty angry about with the young earth, moon hoax, Intelligent design etc and the general degree of scientific illiteracy around. Though I've never punched anyone. OTOH, I haven't been there either.
Apparently, there was a very involved Fox news thing on the "moon hoax".
Apparently the Fox show (surprises of surprises) was weighted heavily pro-hoax. I found this website: www.badastronomy.com that is a really nice explanation of the reasons (as well as other good stuff like the Mars faces). At least the National Geographic program was totally the other way. It was anti-hoax, and took each issue raised and refuted it fairly firmly. It clearly portrayed the pro-hoaxers as unreasonable nutcases, often fooled by their lack of science knowledge. In some cases, the questions raised were interesting though.
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I missed this one. IMO, it's sad that kids get taught such drivel. I'm glad you are getting the chance to go to space camp where you can learn real science.
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Lol, i think i saw that one, well some of it, when they were talking about that i changed the channel, i was sooo mad. NASA has done soo much for us, and we DID go to the moon no matter what anyone says. I think you're anti-american if you don't believe in it. Even the russians believed it, and it had to have taken a lot for the russians to believe it. They wouldn't believe just anything. Anyways, yeah, and i walked out of class, but i got detention. I was really mad, because i don't think people should teach in a matter of opinion, i think it should be based on solid facts and information, the teachers shouldn't teach to their opinion. /quote]
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[quote="Deimos"][quote="jagsvolleyball14"]
Lol, i think i saw that one, well some of it, when they were talking about that i changed the channel, i was sooo mad. NASA has done soo much for us, and we DID go to the moon no matter what anyone says. I think you're anti-american if you don't believe in it. Even the russians believed it, and it had to have taken a lot for the russians to believe it. They wouldn't believe just anything. Anyways, yeah, and i walked out of class, but i got detention. I was really mad, because i don't think people should teach in a matter of opinion, i think it should be based on solid facts and information, the teachers shouldn't teach to their opinion. /quote]
It was real, it's probably from some news thing, I saw it on a space forum, and he punched the guy (bart sibrel) because the guy was bugging him.des wrote:
I'm not sure that Aldrin REALLY punched someone who believed in the moon
hoax! I don't know why people bother with these nutcases but it was kind of interesting.
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I was watching this show about the moon hoax and the "solid proof" that those pro-hoaxers said they had. I just had to laugh at those people because there was this crazy looking guy that didn't look to intelligent and he was talking about the radiation belts.
There is solid proof that those Apollo Rockets did take off and that the capsules returned because there were thousands of witnesses and camera footage. It would take more effort and more money to cover up a moon landing than to actually go there and that logic alone should prove that we went to the moon.
There is solid proof that those Apollo Rockets did take off and that the capsules returned because there were thousands of witnesses and camera footage. It would take more effort and more money to cover up a moon landing than to actually go there and that logic alone should prove that we went to the moon.