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Re: 2019?

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:09 pm
by majtom7
I would hope that USSRC would keep the shuttle sims. They are the only sims based on real life counterparts. Orion 1.0 is just someone's guess, like a video game. I've not seen Orion 2.0 so I'm unable to speak from experience on that. However, I expect that it's more of the same.

Re: 2019?

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:20 pm
by p51
The STS sims are Space Camp to more than one generation of people.
It would kill me if they removed all of them, especially Enterprise. Maybe someday if there's something tangible and real going to space (as in, after we have landed on the Moon again) and not theoretical, they'll take the orbiter sims out.
But as it stands, STS is the best way to occupy the most people on a team at one time.

Re: 2019?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:59 am
by majtom7
Here's an example of how dumbed down things have become. Attached is the evaluation from my first mission at my first weekend camp back in 1991. Yes, we were graded on our performance.

P.S. Despite the counselor comment, there was one bobble.

Re: 2019?

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:34 pm
by airkale
Horrible news guys, due the the hurricane hitting Louisiana, I will not be making it to Huntsville. Keep me up to date on what happens. Please post pictures for me!!!

Re: 2019?

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:33 pm
by blachwk
airkale wrote:Horrible news guys, due the the hurricane hitting Louisiana, I will not be making it to Huntsville. Keep me up to date on what happens. Please post pictures for me!!!
Our family's thoughts and prayers are out to everyone in the path of Hurricane Barry.

Re: 2019?

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:02 am
by airkale
Good news, things were not too bad for the hurricane. No damage here.

Re: 2019?

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:57 am
by p51
Recently I started really thinking about SC. My most recent week-long trip in November was actually a disappointment in many ways. They’ve cut down the things that make SC special to such a degree, I wondered a few times that week what I was even doing there.
I’m sure that to a degree it’s due to the “Groundhog Day” nature of camp starting to creep in as I've been there 5 times since 2012, especially for 3 day programs where you really don’t have time to get to know anyone new on the team. But they keep whittling away at all the stuff I liked about SC. Getting rid of the mission patches for adult programs has been a bitter pill to swallow for me. You forum regulars might already know I made patches for each design I ever did, but once it stopped being a competition, nobody seemed to care about the patches. For the patch I made for Hoot Camp II, nobody on the team came to me asking if I would make them when we were done. That probably has as much to do with the people on the team as anything I guess but I suspect winning against other teams always motivated my teams in the past to want actual patches from the design. I have the ‘prefab’ ones from the last two times but I haven’t had them sewn to anything yet.
The graduation last time was an utter joke. It really emphasized a week where consistently it felt like we were an afterthought all the way through.
If I didn’t know any better, I’d swear they’re trying to make it so ‘blah’ that nobody will come so they can get rid of the adult programs.
airkale wrote:Good news, things were not too bad for the hurricane. No damage here.
Very glad to hear that. At one point, the storm was supposed to head right toward my parents in Florida, but suddenly turned west...

Re: 2019?

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:20 pm
by majtom7
Back in the 1990s when I first went to camp, our team patch design was put on a mission cake. There were no competitions.

Re: 2019?

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:27 pm
by Hotdog
Hate that you couldn't make it, Kale. You missed a great party! I'm still recovering from the 8 days of SC and Apollo awesomeness.

I spoke to one of the sim techs very briefly, and he said the Discovery sim will be removed this fall to begin its transformation into a Dreamchaser. Supposedly SNC is cooperating with the center, so the hope is we will get something close to what will eventually be their manned spaceplane variant (within the limitations of the current Discovery sim dimensions, of course).

Re: 2019?

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:04 pm
by p51
Hotdog wrote:Hate that you couldn't make it, Kale. You missed a great party! I'm still recovering from the 8 days of SC and Apollo awesomeness.

I spoke to one of the sim techs very briefly, and he said the Discovery sim will be removed this fall to begin its transformation into a Dreamchaser. Supposedly SNC is cooperating with the center, so the hope is we will get something close to what will eventually be their manned spaceplane variant (within the limitations of the current Discovery sim dimensions, of course).
Did you get Buzz's signature when he was there?
Any word on the Enterprise sim?

Re: 2019?

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:50 pm
by Hotdog
As far as I know, Enterprise is staying. Will confirm later.

Buzz was not signing anything. We were lucky just to have him show up I think. He skipped out on the Homecoming dinner, and only spoke at the Aerospace States Association awards the following evening. He paused to take two photos before he was whisked out the back door of the Davidson. I at least managed to get close enough to be within an arms reach of him and snap a few pics. If only Buzz could be as cool and down-to-earth as the other astros who were around this past week (Jack Lousma, Tom Stafford, Al Worden, Ed Gibson, Hoot, Wendy Lawrence, Jan Davis...)

Re: 2019?

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:38 am
by majtom7
They've removed Enterprise's aft structure (vertical stabilizer and OMS pods).

Re: 2019?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:27 pm
by airkale
Great, what's next to get the boot...