If you were to design the next higher level...

CastAway · Post by **CastAway** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:52 pm

I was thinking about this, and I think one thing Space Camp needs is one more program, higher up, for people like us who recently became too old for the youth programs. One reason I'm afraid of adult camp is the fact that it will be a group of people of all adult ages, and I prefer to interact with people my own age or nearby. So I was thinking... what if there was a program for, say, ages 19-24 or so, that only occurred a few weeks out of the summer (since, of course, there would be less interest)? What do you think it could be called? How do you think it could be organized?

Repeat · Post by **Repeat** » Sat May 27, 2006 9:54 am

One issue I see is that the primary age of counselors is that very age - and it's much different having a team with a counselor who is a peer versus having a team with a counselor who is older (or younger) than your team is.

I'm not sure exactly how that fact would impact the program, but as it's different from the current situations primarily, I would wonder.

What I would like is to have an adult alumni week or two for those of us who came here as campers to come back now that we're adults - I think that would be cool. And (selfishly), I think that the more times one came here before, the less it should cost for this week.

I also don't know that it would be possible for it to happen during the summer, as that's our BUSY season - adult sessions generally take place in the fall, or occasionally in the spring.

SpaceCanada · Post by **SpaceCanada** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:42 am

I don't know... I agree with Soccer in that such a programme could be ackward.

I went to adult camp at age 21. I was the youngest one there but even with the huge age variances our whole team got along really well. If you want to go with people your age, then invite some friends to come with you.

I wouldn't worry about it too much though. If typical adult weeks are like my week at Adult ASA, anyone who sincerely enjoys the programme will have a great time. If anything, my week at adult camp was my best Space Camp experience!

ApolloXI · Post by **ApolloXI** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:58 pm

I kind of think having a level between ASA and Adult ASA could be both good thing and a bad thing. I will agree that they should have a Alumni Camp for the adult group.

CastAway · Post by **CastAway** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:44 pm

Yeah, at least having an adult camp that was alumni-only would be quite nice. I like that idea.

As for the counselor age thing, who knows. I guess you're right that could be a difficulty or awkwardity, though.

Repeat · Post by **Repeat** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:11 pm

it would be particularly awkward considering that I would LOVE to go to an alumni young adult camp - but I've been a counselor now for two seasons, and I'm currently a training team mentor. It would be incredibly weird for one of my co-workers to have me as a trainee - especially if I had a room in the hab at the same time, and had to request a week off to attend the camp session...

ACluvR · Post by **ACluvR** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:56 am

I think it would be cool. I have to admit my Adult Space Academy was... not my thing. I love the space stuff... but I was the youngest (20) when I was there... everyone was at least 5 years older than me... and that was just one person. I think it'd be cool to have a younger session... but they have to do an AC one, lol. They gip us... I still have never seen a one week adult session although they claim to have one...

SpaceCanada · Post by **SpaceCanada** » Tue May 30, 2006 10:09 am

There used to be an adult AC 6-day session, but they seem to have removed it from the schedule in recent years. I registered for it once but it was cancelled due to low numbers. I'm guessing if they have enough interest, they could put one together.

Otherwise, I'm sorry to hear your Adult SA camp wasn't the best experience. I couldn't say how I would do with a 3-day programme either, but that is why I do the 6- and 8-day ones.

Adult camp DOES have an alumni-only week in late September/early October every year. They do not advertise it, but it is there. It is the 8-day camp, and it is only open to alumni of the youth and adult ASA programmes. You can phone the registration desk and they will give you the dates.

The adults who are there typically go every year. They're awesome! One guy can practically fly a mission with his eyes closed (and still find all the switches and do the checklists in record time). I think he is building a replica cockpit in is basement, but I could be mistaken. The alumni trainees come from amazing walks of life and they are all great people. I miss them terribly, more than any other team.

I wish I could go to adult alumni 8-day camp every year, like they do, but I don't have enough vacation time or money, and I have a thousand other things I want to do too!

ACluvR · Post by **ACluvR** » Tue May 30, 2006 10:56 pm

I never did ASA... I was an AC addict by then and couldn't cross back, lol. So don't think I could do the alumni thing anyways... 3 days is so short, because its really only one full day... But most the longer sessions I have class and things... the life of going to school.

CampGirlKelly · Post by **CampGirlKelly** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:24 am

I think a fun solution to the counselor vs camper age question would be to have alumni counselors come as well!